Who I Vote For

Here is a video explaining why I vote the way I do.

 

 

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About pastorrobin

Hello. I pastor PromiseLand Church in San Marcos, TX. I am married to Erica, and we have 3 kids: Kennady, Jude, and Avery. All little ones! Visit our church site at www.psmchurch.com

Posted on October 31, 2012, in politics, President Obama and tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 18 Comments.

  1. Click this link for a timeline of The Obama Administration record on Abortion policies, decisions, and appointments. http://www.lifenews.com/2010/11/07/obamaabortionrecord/

    One of the biggest signs to me was just a couple days after getting into office: January 23, 2009 – Forces taxpayers to fund pro-abortion groups that either promote or perform abortions in other nations. Decision to overturn Mexico City Policy sends part of $457 million to pro-abortion organizations.

  2. Obama – I believe he is a great father and husband. I imagine he is a great lawyer and friend to many. I strongly disagree with many of his social issues such as gay marriage and support of abortion. I disagree with his plans to rebound the economy. I believe his record shows that he does not have the ability to lead us economically.

    Romney – I believe he is a man of strong faith, although I disagree with a lot of the Mormon faith. His stance on social issues line up with a lot of mine. I believe he is head and shoulders more experienced in economics and rebuilding organizations than Obama. His track record in both public and private businesses is strong. His philosophy of helping people through the local church is Biblical. This has been shown by his personal volunteer efforts and the millions of dollars he has donated to his church.

  3. Thank you for clarifying your position on voting in line with biblical principles. My hope is that all Christians would vote and let their voice be heard, and that people would not fall for the failed logic of voting for a “second best candidate” because they believe that their candidate of choice will not be elected. It has been shown in history that elections have been won by an extremely narrow margin. Your vote counts!

  4. Although I don’t think its important to know who you voted for and why, I do not at all see your choice as a surprise but since you brought it up I would like to just say that I respectfully disagree with you for the following reasons. First off, It’s very difficult to ascertain what Romney’s social views are because they change everyother day or so depending on the polls. He has no real convictions other than the fact that he has a disdain for people that are not rich like he is.I also do not agree that he was sucessful in both the public and private sectors. He made a lot of money for himself and a few other people but I don’t exactly consider that as a success. His record as Governor of Massachusetts was a complete disaster. Now as for President Obama, I believe he’s done extremely well considering the fact that he was faced with complete opposition from the Republican Party and the Tea Party when he came into office. They were determined to oppose everything he wanted to do regardless of whether it was good for the country or not. I do not agree with everything he’s done but I do admire the fact that he tries to look out for all americans and not just some americans. President Obama has also been very charitable throughout his life just as Romney is being praised for being throughout his life. You wont find that on Fox news or hear it on the Rush Limbaugh radio show but it is true. You heard it right here. One big difference is that President Obama gave up a lucrative career after leaving Harvard to work as a community organizer in some of the roughess neighborhoods in Chicago helping people that were impoverished and struggling for very little pay while Romney was making billions of dollars closing down companies so that he and friends could become richer. I understand that is the free market and that’s how it works but still don’t think its right I don’t think its biblical either. If I’m wrong about that, please let me know which scriptures I could refer to that would help me understand that.

    Lastly, I do not believe that anyone in this country is pro-abortion. I do believe that many people however are pro-choice and to me there is a difference. I also believe that there are people that are pro-life. I’m pro-life because I believe that all life is precious and a gift from God so I oppose the death penalty as I do someone having an abortion but I’m also pro-choice because I believe that any sin that someone commits is a choice, even abortion.

    I have one last statement and I’m done with my rant. I hope this whole announcing of who you voted for was not in any way an attempt to sway members of the congregation to follow your lead because if it was, I don’t think that’s the right thing to do.

    Thanks,

  5. I do appreciate the dialog and it is clear that we disagree on most of the issues.
    I’ll stick with my thoughts on the video, however will add this….

    When it comes to abortion, the concern that most Christians have is not the choice of the mom to as you say “sin”.

    With abortion legal, you are denying the unborn human the right to life. Laws are supposed to protect someone’s rights until those rights infringe on someone else’s rights. When a parent has the legal right to choose to end the life of their kid, then the kid is denied his or her unalienable right to life (as stated in the Constitution).

    The debate becomes “when does life begin”.

    Most evangelical and Catholics in America believe it is at conception.
    Thus, the government should take responsibility to protect the rights of the unborn.

  6. Thank you for your reply and it does help me understand more about your philosophy as it relates to voting. I have a couple of other questions though for better clarification. Are you also opposed to the death penalty? You stated that life is to be protected until natural death so I assume you are. Also you quoted a scripture from the book of Romans referring to respecting our leaders, have you spoken out at all about the total disrespect that has been directed at our current president? I’m much older than you are so I’ve seen more presidents that you have I’m quite certain and I’ve never seen this type of treatment toward a US President ever before in my life. The birth certificate talk, being called a liar while giving a state of the union speech and so many other incidents. Does the lack of civlity concern you. It does me. I have my belief on why this is ocurring more but what do you think?

  7. I agree with the above post. As the pastor of a church, leading so many young and vulnerable people, i believe this was your way of swaying minds. It is unfortunate but I can see how christians have a bad reputation in society. People come to church to learn about God and what is expected of us not who we should vote for. It was an abuse of power on your part. People will vote in line with those who share their moral values and current issues.

  8. First of all, what happened to separation of church and state. For a Pastor to inject himself into a political election is the lowest form of “abuse of power”. For a “so called man of God” to in any way shape or form try to sway the opinion of his congregation is sad. I don’t see where you encouraged people to vote, no matter who they vote for. A right that many people fought and died for. I see no sermons on the evils of voter suppression. How about the philosophy of helping the poor and the hungry. You should be ashamed of yourself. You know that because of your position in the community that people respect you and you can sway a vote. Voting a certain way because of one position is ignorant. There are many issues of much more importance than any that I have seen you voice. I can give you a thousand scriptures that prove that helping the least among us is an important moral. You are only showing that you are a typical Republican, who will do anything to win,ie. lie, cheat and steal. You can preach the bible but to insert yourself in this way is unacceptable. A true man of God will preach the bible, stress family values and be kind enough to realize that people are smart enough to make their own decisions. Politics is not your job. Shame on you.

  9. JB,
    I do not agree with the death penalty. I believe that disrespect of the President is unacceptable. It is wrong. However, I will say that there was equal disrespect to George Bush. (ex- comparing him to Hilter)

  10. VH,
    Wow, that was harsh. THe moral issues you are talking about are extremely important and as stated in the video, I believe that they are the responsibility of the church. This video could be seen as a critique of the church more than the promotion of a candidate.

    I speak on all issues that pertain to modern day events. Politics and government happened to be the topic of the day. If I am not connecting the dots of real life to scripture, then I am not doing my job.

    It is my right as a US citizen to speak to whomever I choose about my opinion. If you are really concerned about it, you can research the precedent set by pastors for the last 200 years and see that I am in good company.

  11. Amber,
    There is no separation of church, life, world, and God. Everything is interconnected. For me not to speak about current events and how they connect to the church would be ignorant and irrelevant. Not to mention irresponsible when it comes to moral issues. As I said to ‘VH’, the main point of the video was not an endorsement of an candidate, but a critique of the church. I see each election season as a great opportunity to express my thoughts on the roles of government and the church. It is my conviction that the church has fallen away from its responsibilities and allowed secular governments to fulfill its God given role. Therefore, when it comes to voting, we Christians should let our voice be heard (vote). However, it is only a minor tool. We can not think that it is the sole solution to America’s problems or we have failed to see the power of God’s kingdom.

  12. There is in fact seperation of church and state. To “Amber” the bible says to be in the world not of the world and what i analyze from that is to do my part as an individual to follow him and not condem others for not doing the same. With that said in this world abortion happens to be legal, but who are we to condem those who choose to do so, thats Gods job and he will do so whether or not abortion is legal or not! As a woman of God i know what he expects of me thanks to the help preachers like Robin. Politics should be left out of conversation at church. Yes we have the right to voice our stance on politics but it should be done in another setting. I personally dont want to go hear that nonsense at church, if i did i would watch CNN instead. As it is your right to speak out on who you are voting for it is also my right to speak out when i feel something is not right. This has changed my views on what the church stands for and makes me leery of its intentions. It is not my church and it can be ran however the pastor chooses to run it however I will be yet another member to leave it as that is my choice. I have attended many churches in my lifetime and never has a pastor stated his political views or personal morals with the whole congregation. Because the pastors ethics and beliefs are not what matters its GOD who does. And we should be able to gain the tools needed to make those ethical and life decisions for ourselves.

  13. Although i have posted my beliefs I would never create a video titled why I no longer attend Promise Land because that is my personal choice. People do not disclose information without a purpose, so if i were to create a video it would be with the intention of swaying others to feel the way i do just as i believe this video was set out to do. If not there would be no point in posting it. I agree with “VH” as we both stated it was an abuse of power and most definitely unethical.

  14. I forgive you for your ignorance because that is what a good christian does. The election is over, the majority have spoken. Enough said. Leave politics to the politicians and preaching to the preachers.

  15. “Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.”
    – Rick Warren

  16. I voted the Bible. I voted my values. I voted for President Obama. Your views and the views of many Christian pastors were perplexing and disheartening that you would speak on the abortion issue & gay marriage issue but just make small mention about Romney’s mormon faith. Do you think everything that is not of Christ is “anti-Christ”? How do you call Romney a man of strong faith when he follows a modern day cult? How can two walk together lest they agree?I don’t agree with some of President Obama’s views but he is “our” brother in Christ & therefore we can reason together. We can pray that he hears from God & make decisions in line with the Word. Of course, you can pray for anyone but there is a difference when you pray for a sister or brother in Christ. Can you pray that way for Romney??

    Review the mormon religion/cult. Did you make a good decision to uphold beliefs contrary to the Bible? I give Romney credit in not lying about what he believes even though God is not pleased with his ungodly beliefs.

    Use your platform to speak God’s word and encourage your congregation to make their vote count without your opinion making the congregation uncomfortable because they don’t want to disagree with you openly. As someone who is responsible for hundreds of employees I would never exert my authority to tell them anything other than they should make their vote count.

    Be prayerful especially when “feeding the flock”. As the pastor think back to the feeling in the congregation as you made your political views known although you led them to your blog if they were interested….there had to be some strangeness…think about it.

    I will continue to pray for you.

  17. HER,
    I appreciate your opinion. Thank you for taking the time to let your voice be heard here. I am interested in a healthy, respectful dialog.

    When it comes to my opinion, that is truly all it is. If you have reasons for voting for Obama that you feel are valid, then use your right as an American and vote for him. Also, I encourage you to speak on WHY that is the case. Defend it and make it known. I stand my by right to do the same.

    Frankly, there are key leaders in our church who vote for Democrats at every election cycle and they didn’t have an issue with what I did. This church is multi-cultural and multi-generational. We are all going to disagree on things that are ‘negotiable’ (government would definitely be one of those). The quote I put from Rick Warren in an earlier comment sums up our philosophy on this type of dialog and disagreement.

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